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Post  pen Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:50 pm

i took one today and the side effects wiped me out for 6 hours.
Didnt work to well either. Now 8 hours since I took it and pain changed sides and not great.

Last one I took didnt wipe me out like this.
I thought it was maybe time of day or if I have eaten or not, but that doesnt seem to be the case.

I do see to be getting more side effects from the Migard.
Is it maybe time to try the Almotriptan??

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Post  pen Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:56 pm

Does the lack of response mean that most of you find the Triptans mainly consistent please?
Those that can take the of course.
I a finding them more and more hit and miss.

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Post  crt Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:38 pm

Pen,

I find them very consistent. I take Maxalt-Mlt (tablet dissolves under the tongue). I get total relief from all the migraine symptoms within 1 hour or less. One tablet is effective 99% of the time. Rarely it takes 2 tablets spaced several hours apart. Even more rarely, the Maxalt doesn't work at all. But it's so effective so often that it virtually always works for me. I feel fortunate in finding a med that works so well for me.

But here recently, I've been having astonishing success with cayenne. If that continues, maybe I won't even have to take the Maxalt any more.

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Post  tecky Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:21 pm

Pen,

I took Relpax for years and it usually worked well within 1-2 hours. In early 2008, the migraines were becoming so frequent and so severe that they were difficult to control with the Relpax. It became pretty much ineffective. I no longer use triptans....now its injectable DHE. It works about 85% of the time.

My migraines often change sides when the meds wear off.

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Post  Brenda Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:11 pm

I don't seem to have consistency with oral triptains either. Sometimes they work well, sometimes not at all. Sometimes I just get the "heavy arms and legs" feeling, other times they make me nauseous and put me to sleep. My Imitrex injections are more consistent and reliable, but I don't get many of those so I have to save them for the ones I wake up with or the ones I didn't catch in time.
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Post  Mule Kick Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:12 am

When I was able to get them, Zomig-zmt worked about one-third of the time; the generic for Fioricet worked about one-third of the time; and the two together worked about two-thirds of the time.
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Post  theresae Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:43 am

hi pen

when i take them they work for me virtually everytime, like most people the earlier i take them the quicker they work,

but every so often i hit a bad patch, last year it happened twice, once in feb and again in august, where i am stressed or not well and end up with a constant migraine, and i mean constant, not a scale 10 one but around a 6/7 and it just wont shift at all, it goes on for several weeks, then the triptans and any otc dont work, i dont know why but they dont, at best they just take it down to a 5, so both times i ended up at docs, to try to break the cycle, and ended up on the preventatives that i have mentioned.
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Post  Ivy Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:55 am

Hi Pen,
maybe the difference is not in the triptan, but in the type of attack.
I find that each attack has its own pattern and intensity.
Also, the general physical conditions of that particular day can affect the efficacy of a med.
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Post  pen Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:52 am

Ivy wrote:Hi Pen,
maybe the difference is not in the triptan, but in the type of attack.
I find that each attack has its own pattern and intensity.
Also, the general physical conditions of that particular day can affect the efficacy of a med.
Bye

Ivy, you are probably right. I know hormonal ones are said to be more painful and harder to treat.
Mine have got into a pattern of migraine, day off, day 2 of migraine.
The second day is invariably worse (today).
But I am tired, deflated etc. So maybe its me.

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Post  theresae Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:24 am

yes i agree hormonal ones are always harder to shift for me.
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Post  pen Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:43 am

My problem seems to be, they are all hormonal.
I have no known triggers, never have had...
Need a new Triptan maybe.

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Post  theresae Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:45 am

yeah give it a go pen and see if there is something else you can try, something soluable maybe? do triptans even come in soluable form??
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Post  Mule Kick Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:44 pm

Zomig-zmt and Maxalt-melt are both tablets that dissolve in the mouth.

Zomig-zmt is an awful artificial orange flavor (like childrens chewable aspirin), that makes me quite nauseated. I don't need that extra nausea when I am already dealing with a mig. It works about one-third of the time if I take it by itself, or two-thirds of the time if I combine it with generic Fioricet and extra acetaminophen.

I would love to try Maxalt-melt, but it is not in the VAMC formulary. Sad The only triptans availiable are Summatriptan (Immatrex) and Zolmatriptan (Zomig). {My spelling may not be accurate.}
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Post  jennyds33 Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:41 pm

I had the exact same issue that you had when taking Triptans. I realized that the longer I waited to take the triptan, after the migraine began, the worse the side effects were. Try to always take the triptan asap, especially within the first 2 hours of the migraine. I used to wait sometimes just because I had hoped it would go away on it's own. It just ended up making me extremely light-headed, nauseous, and I felt like every vein in my head might explode.

I'm against taking Triptans now, btw. I would never take them again.
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Post  pen Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:26 pm

Thanks Jenny. It does seem to be the case.
I just dont like to take them 5am, cos I could do that and then run out.

Why are you against taking them Jenny?
I dont have anything else.
They are all that has been offered.
Do enlighten me please.....

P

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Post  Chinookgrl Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:38 pm

I sometimes notice that the side effects are different at times as well Pen. Though I find I have better consistency with the Zomig nasal spray than any oral tablet, so I switched to that. I do find sometimes I get extremely tired after taking any triptan while other times no fatigue at all so now I always have a cup of coffee with one. It seems to help especially if I have things I have to do.

Also Pen did you get my post about the hormone cream. I posted a couple days ago? Title For Pen, sorry I couldn't post more info. When My Mom is back in country I can get to her records, sometime in the spring, I'll post more details then if you'd like.

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Post  Brenda Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:52 pm

If you have a sensitivity to aspartame aka nutrasweet, stay away from the maxalt mlt. It's got that in it. My doctor gave me a sample that made me worse. Didn't know why until I read the packet
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Post  crt Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:53 am

Brenda wrote:If you have a sensitivity to aspartame aka nutrasweet, stay away from the maxalt mlt. It's got that in it. My doctor gave me a sample that made me worse. Didn't know why until I read the packet

It's true that Maxalt-Mlt contains aspartame. It's also true that I have a sensitivity to aspartame. The only thing I can figure out is that there is not enough aspartame in a Maxalt-Mlt tablet to set me off. A 12 oz diet soda with aspartame will. However for the people who are super sensitive to aspartame, a Maxalt-Mlt may be too much.

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Post  pen Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:05 pm

How would I know if I was sensitive to aspartame?

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Post  crt Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:23 pm

Eat or drink something that contains it. But warning, if you are sensitive, it's likely to trigger a migraine. Time to reaction? It was an hour for me. Your results may vary. Aspartame is sold under a number of different trade names including Equal, NutraSweet, and Canderel,

Here's a discussion of aspartame on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame


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Post  pen Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:27 pm

Thanks Chris. Sorry to sound so thick. I dont usually have reduced sugar/diet stuff, so will check around and see if it is in anything we have.

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Post  crt Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:37 pm

That's OK Pen. I don't usually use phony sugar products either. For some silly reason, one day I decided to be "good" and buy a diet Coke. I don't usually drink soft drinks anyway so I must have had a migrainity moment. Anyway, an hour after drinking the diet Coke I was in migraine agony. And I was having such a good day up to that point!

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