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Post  Migrainegirl on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:41 pm

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/marijuana-347866-migraine-medical.html

Seriously, has anyone found that pot is successful at treating migraines?
I have not heard anyone here say this worked.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  charmed quark on Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:47 pm

As I posted in the past, it helps with mine, more as a preventative than an abortant.

However, in my case the migraines may be triggered by my neck and shoulder spasticity and spasms ( due to severe cervical stenosis, apparently). Cannabis HAS been shown, in a number of double blind, cross-over studies, to be effective for spasticity, spasms and neuropathic pain.

I don't use the herbal variety - while my home state passed a medical marijuana law over 2 years ago, the governor has been trying to prevent its implementation so it is not yet legal.

Insteal I use the FDA approved pharmaceutical, dronabinol ( brand name Marinol). In some ways it is not as effective as the natural stuff and seems to have more side effects, but it is better than nothing.

My insurance company recently decided to cut me off and I had to appeal. They accepted my appeal because the insurance company physician said he had reviewed the scientific literature and found that cannabinoids ( such as the THC in Marinol) WERE effective for my type of conditions.

So if even the insurance company is saying it is effective ....

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  mustardParty on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:55 pm

I joined this site primarily because my girlfriend of 6 six years who I am engaged to has suffered from daily migraines for the last 4 or 5 years.

At one point we tried pot to see if that would help. While it DID help with the pain, it also defeated its own purpose. What I mean is, she basically had to get so high that she couldn't do anything else but sit around being high. She didn't have a job at the time as she has been in grad school in a program that has infrequent on-campus requirements. That helped, kind of.

In the end though it was not a real solution. The point of a migraine solution, as far as she's concerned, is that it should stop the pain, so that she could carry on with her life. While pot did satisfy one part of the requirement, it failed on the other part, since she was so high she couldn't do anything else. If she had had a a full time job that DEFINITELY wouldn't have worked - there's no way she could have driven, or worked at a desk or interacted with customers properly in that state, it's worse than being drunk!

You might argue that being incapacitated by weed is better than being incapacitated by a migraine. Your milage will vary I'm sure - for her it was not a compromise she was willing to make. Being that high prevented her from being able to carry on her studies, which are mentally demanding.

But it did numb the pain, and if you're desperate, well it worked for her.

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Post  Migrainegirl on Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:55 am

Thanks for the feedback. While my state does allow medical marijuana, I'm doubting I'll try it for the same reasons you mention. My goal is to be functional, which I doubt I would be on that.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  charmed quark on Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:31 am

Well, one shouldn't use any medicinal drug to the point of stupification. If you have to use a drug in such large amounts that it causes severe cognitive side effects, one shouldn't use the drug . It's the dose that makes the poison.

I was unable top use drugs like topamax and Lyrica due to cognitive side effects at the large doses required, yet many people get very good results with these drugs with minimal side effects.

I would suggest usign SMALL quantities of prescription Marinol or cannabis, probably before bedtime, as a preventative. Not to use large amounts of the drugs to the point of intoxication.

Obviously, everyone's milage will vary.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  Benji1976 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:21 am

Marijuana doesn't help my migraines. I haven't tried Marinol so can't comment- but for me I can't take a single drag (even of a low THC variety) and be functional enough to work. I know this isn't the case for everybody as I have friends in demanding professions (a lawyer and a CPA) that function fine.

If you try it, I think that the before bedtime suggestion is a good one!

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  tdu on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:52 am

mustardParty wrote:I joined this site primarily because my girlfriend of 6 six years who I am engaged to has suffered from daily migraines for the last 4 or 5 years.

At one point we tried pot to see if that would help. While it DID help with the pain, it also defeated its own purpose. What I mean is, she basically had to get so high that she couldn't do anything else but sit around being high. She didn't have a job at the time as she has been in grad school in a program that has infrequent on-campus requirements. That helped, kind of.

In the end though it was not a real solution. The point of a migraine solution, as far as she's concerned, is that it should stop the pain, so that she could carry on with her life. While pot did satisfy one part of the requirement, it failed on the other part, since she was so high she couldn't do anything else. If she had had a a full time job that DEFINITELY wouldn't have worked - there's no way she could have driven, or worked at a desk or interacted with customers properly in that state, it's worse than being drunk!

You might argue that being incapacitated by weed is better than being incapacitated by a migraine. Your milage will vary I'm sure - for her it was not a compromise she was willing to make. Being that high prevented her from being able to carry on her studies, which are mentally demanding.

But it did numb the pain, and if you're desperate, well it worked for her.

The issue is more that migraine specific meds knock me (and a lot of other people) out worse than marijuana ever could. And I have side effects like muscle tightness and disorientation that last 2-3 days after those meds that I refer to as the 'medication hangover'. So the marijuana high is preferable. The other thing is if you use marijuana daily, it does not effect you the same way as if you smoke it occasionally. It sounds hard to believe, but you do get to a point where you are functional on it. In my case it's almost like the effect I got from anti-anxiety meds eventually.

It definitely will not work for everyone. If stress, lack of sleep, or muscle tension are triggers for you though, it can be beneficial. And another really important thing to remember is that there are different types and strains that have different effects. You want to be educated in what you are buying and buy from a source who knows what they are selling.

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Marinol works great for me

Post  vcuoco on Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:47 am

Before I resort to the pain killers, i try to knock it out with THC. My doc prescribed Maranol for me, which is straight THC. It's VERY strong and VERY expensive. I don't use it that often, but the pain killers have horrible side effects for me.

Smoking it or vaporizing it greatly lessens migraine pain for an hour or two. the problem is it's short effect. Ingesting it in pill form or food is better, but be prepared to be high for a long time. That is not necessarily the best scenario for all of us. However, when it's a choice between unbearable pain, being wasted on pain killers, or being just "high" on THC, i'll take the THC.

Those of us who live in a state where medical marijuana is legal are very fortunate. Unfortunately, migraine is not on many state lists of "legitimate" reasons for prescriptions. Best wishes. Victoria

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Migraines, chocolate and THC

Post  charmed quark on Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:19 am

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-brain-food/201109/migraines-marijuana-and-chocolate
The articlke talks about migraine and chocolate. I've never gotten any relief from chocolate (thought it was a trigger, anyway), but at least it sounds yummy. Article does describe how marijuana-related compounds can help reduce migraine.

I've had a horrible migraine all day. Nausous, dizzy and pain. Nothing I tried worked. Finally took some prescription THC an hour ago and the migraine went way down and I finally felt hungry for the first time today.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  Cathy on Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:40 pm

The last paragraph just blew me away. They spent the whole paragraph explaining exactly how and why marijuana helps a migraine. Then, instead of recommending a federal legalization of marijuana (at least medical), they suggest that we all go out and eat chocolate. Since I'm diabetic, that's not an option for me.

I agree exactly that most migraine medications that really get rid of the headache leave you unable to function or at least disrupt your life to a largedegree. Just look at the current thread on Topamax as an example.

Many of us, myself included have used magnesium and I still do. I have taken huge amounts of magnesium for years and even tried the magnesium oil that advertises how it works for migraines. No relief.

To say we should all go out and eat chocolate, a known headache trigger, is just another example of conflicting information we receive from the medical community. Thanks for the article though! Smile

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  Cathy on Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:42 pm

Charmed Quark - You said, "I've had a horrible migraine all day. Nausous, dizzy and pain. Nothing I tried worked. Finally took some prescription THC an hour ago and the migraine went way down and I finally felt hungry for the first time today." (couldn't get that quote thing to work)

Wait, I just read your post again. So THC is what's in marijuana, right? And you took the prescription form and it worked, right? That's it, I'm moving to a state with legalized medical marijuana!

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Post  charmed quark on Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:48 am

You don't need to move to a medical marijuana state. Prescription THC, brand-name Marinol, generic name dronabinol, is available anywhere in the USA. It is a schedule 3 drug, but any doctor can prescribe it off-label. My insurance company just sent me a letter saying it is an appropriate drug for spasticity and neuropathic pain, both off-label uses. It probably does not work as well as whole cannabis, especially varieties high in CBD. It is difficult to dose - I have to use half an oil-filled capsule at a time as a full capsule is too much for me and gives me severe anxiety.

I live in a medical marijuana state but do not use herbal cannabis/marijuana as my employer considers it a firing offense.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  tdu on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:25 am

charmed quark wrote:You don't need to move to a medical marijuana state. Prescription THC, brand-name Marinol, generic name dronabinol, is available anywhere in the USA. It is a schedule 3 drug, but any doctor can prescribe it off-label. My insurance company just sent me a letter saying it is an appropriate drug for spasticity and neuropathic pain, both off-label uses. It probably does not work as well as whole cannabis, especially varieties high in CBD. It is difficult to dose - I have to use half an oil-filled capsule at a time as a full capsule is too much for me and gives me severe anxiety.

I live in a medical marijuana state but do not use herbal cannabis/marijuana as my employer considers it a firing offense.

This is one of the most ridiculous thing about majiruana being illegal (outside of the medicinal reasons). When you are at home and not at work, it's ok to drink 3-4 beers every night. That is not any business of your employer. But you can't smoke a joint at home or they can test you and fire you. Just insane.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  FishMisicka on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Hi guys, I'm new here. For me, cannabis has DEFINITELY helped with both prevention of migraines, and relieving the pain of migraines.
In here I saw someone say that the marijuana did help their girlfriend, but made it so all she could do was sit around and be high, yet not able to function. Cannabis can do this, but it usually depends on the type you are using. There are two main types of cannabis that are used, cannabis indica and cannabis sativa. Indica strains of marijuana give a person a body high, and make it so that you do not want to move, you get sleepy, etc. While sativa strains give a head high, and are actually energizing. Some people claim indicas help their migraines more and other claim sativas help more, but personally for myself sativas help my migraines a lot.

Cheers everyone Very Happy -
Fish.

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Re: Marijuana for migraines

Post  sherri b on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:40 pm

I tried it, someone gave me good stuff too. The first time I used it, it worked good. Took the mig away immediatly, (got muchies really bad though and was stoned!) So I tried it a second time and it did nothing for me... go figure, I didn't try it again.

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