"sometimes medicine is more of an art than a science"

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"sometimes medicine is more of an art than a science"

Post  Guest on Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:46 pm

you know that's the kiss of death when your doc says that to you. that means they can't help any further.

ah, got the pass off from my cardiologist today. my symptoms warrant another heart cath, however, he isn't comfortable doing one (this would be number 11).

i'm going to at least see another electrophysiologist. ha, i'm told "she looks at things at little differently." LOL

also, when the doc says "there are things in medicine which we just don't understand. sometimes what should work, doesn't." i've understood that for years, and it is a very honest and appropriate statement. in translation, it means "you're screwed, i have no idea."

more frustrating than disheartening.

my grandmother's uncle had very similar heart issues to mine, but in the late 1800's obviously they didn't have the diagnostics. he was told just to live life, no stress, and basically chill. the common med for chest pain was nitroglycerin then, as it is now.

i could see the frustration on the doc's face. if he could safely do something, he would.

my next cardiac checkup will be in a couple weeks by my other doc at Cleveland Clinic. i expect no miracles--as what they would do there, is what they would do locally. maybe a couple med adjustments.

oh well, what the heck. Suspect

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Post  Paradox on Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:48 pm

Your mention of your grandfather is analogous to the migraine world...today the only thing that would stop the nausea and throbbing was a dark, quiet room. Same thing my Grandma did...

None of the wonderful meds I have touched it. We should be further than this and closer to Star Trek where they wave that thingee over you for a diagnosis.

I got a HUGE bill today for all the back injections I've had that have done nothing.

Frustrating, ain't it?

I'm sorry Marc, that they can't find more answers for you.
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Post  CluelessKitty on Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:10 pm

, but in the late 1800's obviously they didn't have the diagnostics. he was told just to live life, no stress, and basically chill. the common med for chest pain was nitroglycerin then, as it is now.

You know what,
it actually blows my mind that today you take the same medicine for your heart that your Grandma's uncle
took in the 1800's.

shee-eesh!!!!
unfreakingbelievable.
People are thinking of utilizing space, Mars colonization etc,
yet you practically could go and borrow pills from you very old great great uncle..
so much for progress hmmmmm....

HUGS, HUGS, HUGS

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Post  Ivy on Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:06 am

Marc,
I understand your frustration.
Science still has so many limits and it's incredible to believe that the man walked on the moon but still cannot fix a problems like yours....

{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}
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Post  Guest on Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:26 pm

thanks guys.

it's not the condition that really bothers me. it's not the not-so-positive outcome, but the arrogance of the people.

and this doc knows not to p1ss with me. i'm not your average patient. there's no bull-sh1tting me. you can do that to 80 year olds that don't know better.

the ethics standpoint really is irritating.

on the other hand, i saw one of my other docs, a retinal specialist that is following the vision effects from my tumor. the guy is awesome. harvard trained. his mother was great friends with my grandmother. kind, sincere, and actually stands up and helps out.

he's following some changes in my vision closely as it will help the neurosurgeons. he said that i had an absolutely amazing attitude. i am rather pessimistic if not realistic. i know what my problems eventually lead to. can't help it. my education and background is to understand the problem, analyze it, and predict and adapt.

just the strange personal journey that i often need a few hours of time to think things out and clear my brain of what's been going on.

and these pesky migraines.....

at least my docs are helpful and prescibe meds to treat it--they are realistic, not living in la-la land that things are going to just improve over night.

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