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Post  milobenji on Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:29 am

Thought i would share this with you, i am going to try it as i am triptan resistant, who's up for trying it with me? we'll do it as it says and with fresh root ginger and let everyone know if it works, hey even if it works 10% for somebody it'll be worht sharing. see below
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From: karyn.siegel-maier.kotl.uu.ids.net
Date: Tue, 9 May 95 15:48:00 EST

Ginger (either eaten fresh daily or in powdered form) is excellent for migraines! The Journal of Ethnoparmacology (vol. 29) reported the results of a research study from the Odense University of Denmark. A woman who had suffered migraines for more than 16 years was given 500-600 mg of powdered ginger mixed with water at the onset of a migraine. Each time her pain would disappear within 30 minutes.

Ginseng has anti-histamine and anti-inflammatory qualities and is quite safe for children as well. If daily comsumption of ginger doesn't appeal to you, you can find capsules in a health food store. For migraine, start out with 2 capsules per day.
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Post  sailingmuffin on Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:28 pm

Hi,

I am allergic to ginseng. However, I love ginger in any form-ginger beer, ginger candy, and yes, ginger tea. It doesn't stop the headache, but does help the nausea.

Pain free days,
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Post  Anna on Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:14 pm

How much is 600mg of ginger in volume? A teaspoon or two?

I also love ginger (particularly strong ginger beer- Jamaican style). It feels right to drink when I have a migraine and helps with nausea. I've also made ginger tea from fresh ginger- very strong with a bit a sweetener (honey) and lemon- it's amazing. I wonder if it works like other preventives and you have to take it for a while for it to work on migraine. Anyone know?
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Post  Mule Kick on Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:11 pm

I love ginger.

Ginger: Common Spice & Wonder Drug; Copyright © 1994 by Paul Schulick; published by Herbal Free Press; ISBN: 0-9639297-1-2, is a very interesting book on ginger. In the back (pages 112 to 125) it lists 477 different chemicals that have been isolated from ginger, so far.

The first seven paragraphs of chapter 3 (pages 10 - 12) state:
Ginger's anatomy can be divided into four principal sections: 1) taste or pungency: 2) essential oil or fragrance: 3) macro/micro-nutrients and 4) synergists.

The most obvious note of Ginger's universally loved flavor is its pungency. Contained within this profoundly distinctive taste are also some of Ginger's most powerful medicinal properties. The first attempt to dissect this pungency or spiciness was with the work of Thresh in 1879. He isolated an oily-resinous substance, composing approximately five to ten per cent of the plant, and gave it the name ginerol. This oleoresin has since been broken down into close to thirty elements.

The two most recognized divisions of these pungency constituents are called gingerols and shogaols. Gingerols, present in fresh Ginger, convert into the more pungent shogaols with dehydration and heat. This chemical transformation from the fresh to the dry state is one of the most profound factors behind Ginger's therapeutic effects.

Almost as distinctive as Ginger's tastes is its fragrance. The wonderfully sweet, warm and citrusy aroma of Ginger is highly regarded and used in the perfumery and beverage industries. The unique scent of Ginger arises from one of nature's most complex essential oils composing between 1.0-2.5 per cent of the dried rhizome. After reviewing the work of more than 17 studies, researcher Brian Lawrence compiled 200 different components of this essential oil. It is no wonder that V.S. Govindarajan, the author of the difinitive work on the chemistry, technology and quality evaluation of Ginger concluded, "it is unlikely that the balanced aroma of natural Ginger will be duplicated for a long time."

The macro/micro-nutrients category encompasses proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and all the known vitamins, minerals and trace nutrients of Ginger. Unlike many other herbs or spices, fresh or green Ginger has a history of being consumend as a vegetable and does possess considerable levels of nutrients like postassium, phosphorous, Vitamin C and riboflavin. (See Figure 2)

Synergists are included here, with all due humility, as an escape clause to encompass the remainder of Ginger's elements. Although elements like gingerols or zingiberene might be the primary constituents responsible for taste and scent respectively, many of the other hundreds of ingredients which are referred to here as synergists ultimately interact and overlap to manifest the entire effect.

Of special note in the synergists category is an enzyme called zingibain and other highly researched plant constituents like capsaicin, curcumin limonene. Zingibain is a powerful protein-digesting enzyme which is comparable to papain from papaya bromelain from pineapple. What is most interesting is not so much the enzyme itself but its potency. Comprising as much as 2 per cent of the fresh rhizome, Ginger is one of nature's richest sources of proteolytic enzymes. As a point of reference, this is approximately 180 times the amount of proteolytic enzyme contained in the papaya plant. Capsaicin, curcumin and limonene are common to a number of other spices and possess a phenomenal array of physiological effects.

{From} Figure 2
Nutritional Values for Fresh Ginger

Nutrient by %

Moisture . . . . . . 80.9
Protein . . . . . . . . 2.3
Fat . . . . . . . . . . . 0.9
Carbohydrates . . 12.3
Fiber . . . . . . . . . . 2.4
Minerals . . . . . . . . 1.2
Enzyme . . . . . . . . 2.3

Vitamins / Minerals (mg / 100 gm)

Calcium . . . . . . . 20.00
Phosphorous . . . 60.00
Iron . . . . . . . . . . 2.60
B1 . . . . . . . . . . . 0.06
B2 . . . . . . . . . . . 0.03
B3 . . . . . . . . . . . 0.60
C . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.00

Fresh Ginger offers a full profile of nutrients. The above table is only a representitive sample because there are significant variations between varieties. Nutritional values of dried Ginger depend upon the reduction of moisture.


I added the bold and underline to the third paragraph for emphasis, because it is the most important part of this quote. To get the most from Ginger, I believe that it is important to use both fresh and dried forms.
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Post  milobenji on Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:54 am

well i put some in my tea yesterday, about 1/3 of a teaspoon is 600 mg i think, will have to tell you how it goes, i'm excited at dropping taking nsaids for this, my mum who has arthritis badly had some last night and woke up to no swelling this morning, so that is great.... lets keep in touch about the progress.
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Post  dailyha-rose on Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:40 am

well. i have been eating crystallized ginger for nausea for about 2yrs. the promethezine worked but had side effects. i have never used anything but that type except for gin-gin candy. i like it for the nausea. it smells great too. can you tell us how you feel after trying this ? i do not want to try to ask for too much tomorrow. i would be interested in trying this later this spring.

can you report back. i really hope it works. it would be great. something non pharmaceutical - yeah!

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Post  estre004 on Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:18 pm

Milobenji - Is 1/3 t. mean from that powered stuff you can get in the spice section of the grocery store or would you have to go to a health food store? I usually buy fresh ginger but what I got out of the article, it seems the powered might be better. I'm willing to give it a go.

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Post  Richard on Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:17 pm

this is fascinating. I look forward to your progress reports.
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Post  milobenji on Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:18 am

went to bed with a headache, normally an otc ibruprofen would have sorted it out, or it might have developed and then nothing would have touched it -i bet you know that feeling. anway took a lump of ginger with water and went to bed, headache wasnt there in the morning, now i have had some ginger tea because i felt that throb and the throb has gone. i dont know if its the ginger or if it would have gone anyway but i am not going to stop taking this, if you google ginger and migraines it has all the info.

good luck to all my ginger friends who r going to try it too, will bore you all silly with results, good or bad
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Post  charmed quark on Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:05 am

For about 5 months, I was drinking fresh ginger tea twice a day. I imagine I was getting a similar dose. I was doing it to see if it would help my spasticicty, which has an inflammatory component. Did wonders for my nausea, not that much for my migraines or spasticicty.

Now I always carry some gin-gin candies with me for nausea but otherwise don't use ginger.

It can be a blood thinner, so that can be a problem.

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Post  marion on Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:31 pm

Well don't know if coincidence but used fresh ginger to cook the other night for the first time in years and had my best day for 15months the next day. So yes, I'm giving it a go. Will keep you posted.
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Post  sherri b on Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:50 pm

I will also try it, hey, why not? My husband has some capsules from the health food store, so I'll open them in water next time.

I've been having a really rough time lately, so anything is worth a try....

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Post  mxgo on Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:23 pm

I'm in. I will try it in the form of ginger tea bags with some fresh tea thrown in for good measure.
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Post  tecky on Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:11 pm

I've been having heartburn and nausea with a rumbling/rolling sensation and stomach pain for several weeks. I've used the ginger from my spice cabinet and just sprinkled it on my plain yogurt and mixed it in. It seems to do a good job of helping.

I don't notice any effect on my migraines, but it's nice to have something help with the tummy issues.

Interesting information on ginger, Mulekick. Thanks!

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Post  Guest on Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:13 pm

milobenji wrote:Thought i would share this with you, i am going to try it as i am triptan resistant, who's up for trying it with me? we'll do it as it says and with fresh root ginger and let everyone know if it works, hey even if it works 10% for somebody it'll be worht sharing. see below
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Subject: Re: Need Help for Migraines
From: karyn.siegel-maier.kotl.uu.ids.net
Date: Tue, 9 May 95 15:48:00 EST

Ginger (either eaten fresh daily or in powdered form) is excellent for migraines! The Journal of Ethnoparmacology (vol. 29) reported the results of a research study from the Odense University of Denmark. A woman who had suffered migraines for more than 16 years was given 500-600 mg of powdered ginger mixed with water at the onset of a migraine. Each time her pain would disappear within 30 minutes.

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Post  pen on Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:56 pm

I cant stand ginger in any shape or form.
Not even ginger biscuits.
BUT I will try anything.
Can anyone suggest how I can disguise the taste please?
Thank you.

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ginger? keep us posted

Post  dailyha-rose on Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:15 pm

hey,

i have been remiss in taking my daily vitamins. today when i was stocking my 7day compartment, the only way i remember, i saw a bottle of 100 capsules of ginger root. 550mg each. my head really hurts so i was going to take one. i was thinking of taking one daily with the other vitamins. the brand is natures way. is anyone else trying daily ginger capsules as a preventative?
i have no memory of buying these. i guess my husband did. probably someone told him about ginger when i was eating the crystallized for nausea will review the other posts when head stops hurting (as much)

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Post  Almostangela on Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:41 pm

I've always been a big fan of the properties of ginger but mostly I crave it and I always listen to my body.

Instant Honeyed Ginger Drink. You can get this at T & T or any Asian market. I know Lipton makes this too. It's in the tea section and its a tea size drink packet that you pour into hot water. I drink it daily.

My japanese step father got me hooked on thin sliced red pickled ginger. I always have a jar in my fridge and put a little on rice, stir fry, noodles or soups. When I buy garlic, I always buy a fresh ginger and put the two in each recipe that calls for the one. If you sneak it in everything, it just becomes a part of you.

The tea definately relaxes me.

I'd love to hear the results and I think I might take up the challenge too if someone posts a clear set of measurements.

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Post  tecky on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:07 pm

I've been having some major stomach issues as a side-effect of amitriptyline (I'm titrating off it now--a whole other story). I've been putting a chunk of ginger root in my vegie smoothie I have daily for lunch. It helps my stomach more than the prescription or over-the-counter acid reducers, or anything else.

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Post  Guest on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:28 pm

I began ginger root capsules on Mar. 11th. 550g. 1 daily. No help for the headaches yet. I plan to continue to see what happens. note: I also have ginger powder now and again. It tastes great in gingerale and water and ice.

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