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Post  Cindy*W on Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:15 pm

Don't know if there are any of you whom this will affect but I came across an article yesterday talking about a Bill that was in front of Congress I believe yesterday that would stop all drug compounding period.

At one time I had a terrible time keeping my meds down due to nausea and vomiting so my Doctor had the local pharmacy compound a suppository for me with my pain med and an anti nauseant in it.

I don't know what I would have done without it at the time.

I am sure there are lots of other folks who get some kind of med compounded and I just think it is ridiculous to take that away.

Where is this "war on drugs" going to end?

I know I also read a few months back that there is a group that if they have their way, will make it so you can only get 90 days of schedule drugs period.

The only exception I believe is if you are a terminal patient.

Anyway, just thought I would throw this out there.

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Post  tortoisegirl on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:52 pm

These types of discussions are ridiculous. I hope that nothing like this would ever pass.

I too have heard of the groups asking to only make narcotics for short term or terminal patient use. Although there are still abusers, and doctors who over-prescribe, there are too many chronic pain patients for whom narcotics are the only reasonable treatment, and many people with under-treated pain that could benefit from them.

They should work more on ensuring the current guidelines are being used (such as trying other treatments first, having the patient sign a contract, use one pharmacy, etc), and having more trained pain management specialists to see pain patients to ensure responsible prescribing of meds (often folks can't get into a pain doc and see their primary doctor for meds, who may use them too soon, or increase the dose too fast).

I read the bill is being put forth by the drug companies who want to stop compounding of products that include FDA approved meds, so they will have a monopoly on the meds. I wouldn't think compounding would cut too much into their profits? People get meds compounded for a reason, such as when they need a different dose or combination. There is already a rule you can't get the exact same medication. Best wishes.

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Post  Cindy*W on Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:41 pm

Thanks for your reply Kate.

I am in total agreement with every statement you made.

My understanding is that in the near future, any Doctor that is not a PM doctor and wants to prescribe narcotics long term to their patients will have to have additional training to do so.

To me that makes good sense, not all this other BS they are proposing to do.

So far all they are doing is making it harder for the legitimate pain patients to receive the meds they need to function.

In my opinion, most of the legislation being proposed will do very little or nothing to stop the folks who want narcotics for the sole purpose to get high.

I don't know if anyone has seen them, but there are many websites where these people go to share with each other how they misuse scheduled medication.

It is absolutely sickening to read.

If they are hell bent on misuse and ultimately killing themselves, I don't think any of this legislation and what the DEA is doing will stop them.

Can't remember which comedian it is that says, "You can't fix stupid," but that is how I feel about it.

When will some common sense prevail??

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Post  Migrainegirl on Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:51 pm

I too got a message from my doctor on this. It's a very serious threat. I have been migraine free for months now by taking natural supplements and bio identical hormones from a compounding pharmacy. This would be devastating if it goes through.

I recommend all of you in the US write to your congressmen to protest. Unfortunately many are paid off by the Pharma companies in the form of campaign contributions. We need help!

Special interests in the pharmaceutical industry are trying to use the call for federal regulation of compounding pharmacies to outlaw compounded estriol and thyroid and replace them with standard drugs. Compounded, bioidentical estriol became popular in the first place because the standard drug used for the same purpose was proven to be dangerous, a risk for both heart disease and cancer. It would be understandable that the drug companies would want this huge market back. Here is how some of them have gone about it.

When the call for federal regulation of compounding arose, pharmaceutical companies formed the so-called Working Group on Pharmaceutical Safety to lobby for the bill. The group is led by Tommy Thompson, the former governor of Wisconsin and former Director of Health and Human Services under George W. Bush, and recently a failed Senate candidate, and Sarah Sellers, a former FDA official who worked on compounding pharmacy policy. The group represents some of the drug companies with vested interests in the compounding bill: the "participants" of the Working Group include TherapeuticsMD (a specialty pharmaceutical company), KV Pharmaceuticals, Auxilium Pharmaceuticals, and Mobius Therapeutics.

Not coincidentally, Thompson is chairman of TherapeuticsMD. And until recently, Sellers worked for Ther-RX, the marketing and distribution arm of KV Pharmaceuticals. You may recall our article on KV's fight against the compounded version of the successful progesterone-based drug 17P, which is used to prevent premature births; KV was displeased by the FDA's decision (due to grassroots pressure) to allow compounders to continue making the inexpensive 17P when KV wants to control the market with their high-priced version of the drug, Makena.

In other words, the Working Group on Pharmaceutical Safety and their clients have a direct financial interest in language that would allow the FDA to shut down vital compounded medications and thus a vested interest in passing S.959. Even more concerning is that TherapeuticsMD is in the process of developing a new form of the bioidentical hormones estradiol and progesterone; if these receive FDA approval and S.959 passes, it is very likely that these important hormones will no longer be available except in this new form-of unknown safety-and at what will almost certainly be outrageous prices.

Under S.959, all compounded versions of FDA-approved drugs will almost certainly be banned as "copies" of the approved drug, depending on how strictly that term is interpreted. We expect it to be defined broadly in order to ensure market exclusivity by eliminating competition from compounding pharmacies offering natural products. Because they are natural, these products cannot be patent-protected.


Action Alert! Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) is calling for a vote on S.959 as quickly as possible. Even if you sent Congress your message on S.959 previously, please write them again.
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Post  sailingmuffin on Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:17 pm

Hi All,

I thought I would chime in on this one.

I have heard about the whole only prescribing pain meds for cancer patients thing. I think it is an absolutely ridiculous idea for several reasons. First of all- almost anything can be prescribed "off-label"- meaning a drug created for one disease can be prescribed for another as long as there is reason to believe that it will help the patient. Example, I have tried numerous medications for migraine over the years-even though only four medications are approved for migraine prevention. So it would be easy for doctors to get around this. Secondly, the regulations will hurt more people than it will help. If people are addicted, they will find some way to get the medication. Finally, this idea would hurt both doctors and patients in pain.

Here is a link to an article regarding the impact of very strict regulations in Washington state:
http://www.invw.org/content/prescription-epidemic-2

I also saw a very good post about the stricter guidelines in plave at Walgreens. It supports what was said in the previous posts. http://www.shaunaslifeinpain.com/#axzz2ZWYLv09M

Personally, I think these stricter guidelines would do a great deal more harm than good. Those in chronic pain take the medication so they be productive, stop some of the pain, and not be held prisoner by it. My mother has had chronic pain for my entire life. She still managed to practice general pediatrica for five years. She then retired, but started her own practice helping children with learning disabilities. I basically follow her example on this in that I managed to get through high school, college, some graduate school, all with chronic pain that has been treated. I do not think I could this without controlling the pain.

Pain free days,
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